VG Item: Tension Bow

Tension Bow

Tension Bow | Category: Weapon | Tier: 3 | Cost: 2700

+35% Armor Pierce
+40 Weapon Power

Passive: Every 6s, your next basic attack will deal 50 + 100% of bonus weapon power bonus damage.

Tip: An effective way to surprise enemies with a sudden burst of damage.

BUILD PATH
Six Sins
+25 Weapon Power

Tip: Weapon power increases the damage of basic attacks.
Weapon Blade
+10 Weapon Power

Tip: Weapon power increases the damage of basic attacks.
Piercing Spear
+8% Armor Pierce
+15 Weapon Power

Tip: Armor pierce makes a % of your weapon damage bypass armor.
Weapon Blade
+10 Weapon Power

Tip: Weapon power increases the damage of basic attacks.



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cArl | February 11, 2015 3:44am


1. If you have just this and aftershock, tyrant's monacle will be worse in every way than sorrowblade.
2. One or two hits per engagement is quite common
3. This is the only item that gives armor pierce and doesn't require you to attack five or so times in a row before it's effective
4. Sorrowblade costs 800 more gold
5. Making it true damage basically makes it deal twice as much damage. That means that you would have to attack more than 5 times or something for sorrowblade to be better. By that time the cooldown on this will be up.

4. Sorroblade costs 950 gold more, Tension Bow is 2150 gold, Sorrowblade is 3100 gold (at least in 1.1.7), the price of 2300 gold for Tension Bow has been wrong for ages.
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cArl | February 11, 2015 3:42am


Tension Bow is NOT true damage. This is a quote from my post on zyronl's guide:

"Damage without tension bow, without dice: 52
Damage without tension bow, with dice: 78
Damage with tension bow, with tension bow passive, with dice: 217
Damage with tension bow, without passive, with dice: 129
Damage with tension bow, with passive, without dice: 174
Damage with tension bow, without passive, without dice: 86"

The difference between the 2nd and 5th part is only 96. If it was true damage it would be higher than 180.

And yeah, DPS isn't distinguishable from burst damage, I didn't try to distinguish it. I'm a little surprised that you think my comment doesn't make tension bow sound good: the damage is 5 times as cheap! What's more, the alternatives to tension bow for armor pierce are both inconvenient to most builds that already have a lot of weapon power.

Also, I was wrong. Tension bow's passive's damage is not multiplied by criticals.

You are correct, I was operating under wrong assumptions.

It's now been confirmed that Tension Bow is actually +180 Weaspon Power on the proc, not 180 damage. This +180 Weapon power on top of that cannot crit. And is mitigated by armor.
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InfuriatedBrute (16) | February 4, 2015 6:32am
AlphaBe4t wrote:

This item is only useful on burst characters, if you plan on putting more that one or two hits on someone then you would be much better using sorrowblade. Not to mention that that 180 damage is NOT TRUE damage. It's extra basic attack damage every six seconds. So it can be blocked with armor. Imo it needs to be buffed to atleast be true damage, otherwise there are just better options out there.

Btw this item goes great on burst characters with aftershock and tyrants monacle

1. If you have just this and aftershock, tyrant's monacle will be worse in every way than sorrowblade.
2. One or two hits per engagement is quite common
3. This is the only item that gives armor pierce and doesn't require you to attack five or so times in a row before it's effective
4. Sorrowblade costs 800 more gold
5. Making it true damage basically makes it deal twice as much damage. That means that you would have to attack more than 5 times or something for sorrowblade to be better. By that time the cooldown on this will be up.
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InfuriatedBrute (16) | February 4, 2015 6:21am
cArl wrote:



You may actually be wrong in your thesis there. What I believe you do not take into consideration is that TB's passive is true damage, not diminished by armor. Therefore it provides a minimum of 30 dps, possibly higher, dependent on the length of engagement. The damage of Sorrowblade gets diminished by armor. If we take Koshka as example with her 64 armor, Sorrowblade damage output translates into (150/1.64) 91.46 hp/hit. Of course it's difficult to establish dps here with other factors in play as crit chance by different heroes, attack speed and defensive armor items but it may be actually better in bang for buck comparison than you make it sound here :-)

Tension Bow is NOT true damage. This is a quote from my post on zyronl's guide:

"Damage without tension bow, without dice: 52
Damage without tension bow, with dice: 78
Damage with tension bow, with tension bow passive, with dice: 217
Damage with tension bow, without passive, with dice: 129
Damage with tension bow, with passive, without dice: 174
Damage with tension bow, without passive, without dice: 86"

The difference between the 2nd and 5th part is only 96. If it was true damage it would be higher than 180.

And yeah, DPS isn't distinguishable from burst damage, I didn't try to distinguish it. I'm a little surprised that you think my comment doesn't make tension bow sound good: the damage is 5 times as cheap! What's more, the alternatives to tension bow for armor pierce are both inconvenient to most builds that already have a lot of weapon power.

Also, I was wrong. Tension bow's passive's damage is not multiplied by criticals.
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AlphaBe4t | January 23, 2015 10:07am
Btw this item goes great on burst characters with aftershock and tyrants monacle
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AlphaBe4t | January 23, 2015 10:06am
This item is only useful on burst characters, if you plan on putting more that one or two hits on someone then you would be much better using sorrowblade. Not to mention that that 180 damage is NOT TRUE damage. It's extra basic attack damage every six seconds. So it can be blocked with armor. Imo it needs to be buffed to atleast be true damage, otherwise there are just better options out there.
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Lolcoptercatz27 (1) | January 10, 2015 6:48am
Its great combined with aftershock (learned that on PlayOffBeard's Taka Build) Your first 2 attacks will deal so much damage. In late game just add on a sorrowblade or a tyrant's monacle wiht shatterglass and you have high damage input.
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Eric0913 | January 8, 2015 12:41pm
It's great for any assassin hero, especially for quick kills. The fact that you can use multiples of them gives you the opportunity of landing a stealthy kill. The only thing you need to worry about is if teem mates are sent to reinforce. This is not the best when you get ambushed. But hopefully you get the kill by then before they arrive.
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BlackstarS1 (2) | January 7, 2015 9:16am
This item dosen't stack thankfully, the 180 i mean.
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cArl | January 6, 2015 7:11am

This item is only efficient if the passive is worth 750 gold to you.

To put it another way, you pay 4 gold for every damage you add to the first hit, while if you were to buy an item like sorrowblade you would be paying about 21 gold for each damage (5x as much), but it would apply on every hit, not just the first one, and crits could make it deal even more damage.


You may actually be wrong in your thesis there. What I believe you do not take into consideration is that TB's passive is true damage, not diminished by armor. Therefore it provides a minimum of 30 dps, possibly higher, dependent on the length of engagement. The damage of Sorrowblade gets diminished by armor. If we take Koshka as example with her 64 armor, Sorrowblade damage output translates into (150/1.64) 91.46 hp/hit. Of course it's difficult to establish dps here with other factors in play as crit chance by different heroes, attack speed and defensive armor items but it may be actually better in bang for buck comparison than you make it sound here :-)
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InfuriatedBrute (16) | January 1, 2015 3:06am
This item is only efficient if the passive is worth 750 gold to you.

To put it another way, you pay 4 gold for every damage you add to the first hit, while if you were to buy an item like sorrowblade you would be paying about 21 gold for each damage (5x as much), but it would apply on every hit, not just the first one, and crits could make it deal even more damage.
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wolf_hands (22) | December 31, 2014 7:51am
I like to use it with Glaive. Gives my first attack in a gank more humph! Plus it helps with tanky heroes like Catherine and Joule.
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