Hey man,

Don't let mean people like him put you down like that. The fact that he wasted so much time trying to put you down is just sad. My Lyra guide received hate from a lot of people as well initially, so I understand how you feel. But now it's doing pretty well, although not as well as my support one. I can really see the potential in this guide, don't give up! I think you know what you're talking about and find the idea of building sustain Caine interesting. It does need a bit of tidying up, but overall great guide!

P.s. I gave you an upvote and I'm sure there's many more to come!

~Pasu

Did I really just read through this absolutely terrible guide? The cringe is real from just your threats section, and it gets worse from there.

First, the threats section. Why in the world is Taka listed under "low threat"??? His A can completely dodge Caine's A, and he has incredibly fast move speed as well as invisibility that makes him a nightmare for all laners to deal with except maybe Gwen. Caine is no exception. And for that matter, why is Reim so high up in the lists, higher than even Anka? Reim has zero gap closers, so unless you're dumb enough to stand close to him, you can kill him with ease and once he is low, you can even execute him with your ult.

Moving on to the build. Caine's kit is clearly built around burst. He has only six bullets, for god's sake! So what are you doing with Serpent's Mask and Breaking Point?? He has to reload after six shots. Sure, you have your B, but you can easily just burst them down to a quarter of their health with Tyrant's and Tension Bow using your A and follow with your execute. That's a far cleaner kill, with a far lower chance of death than your "sustain" build. While I'm at it, I might just point out that rarely in the late game do you get into 1v1s, so your "1v1 sustain" isn't going to help much unless they decide to come at you one by one.

Also, there's no point in telling people that it's your first guide and asking for likes. It doesn't help. People rate guides on this website based purely on how good the guide is, they don't give points for sympathy.

So unless you're trying to 1) cringe people out 2) mislead people on how to play Caine or 3) teach people how not to use grammar, I suggest you actually try to fix up your guide. If you're wondering why I dislike your build, I suggest you go to play some 5v5 ranked with your "sustain" build and see how it goes, because I have a feeling you just tried this in casual as Caine is permabanned and decided that it was good based off of destroying the countless afks and new players that 5v5 casual contains. 5v5 ranked is a whole different story, especially after Credible Threat.