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However, you do raise good points without the usual "u suk, git gud" I normally see and I honestly apprreciate seeing someone who can make a point without that mess. Yeah, Captain Taka is more for fun test or display of skill than a really effective build path. Expoect everything here to be scrapped soon though as the meta has long shiftged and my guide revolves around VG patch 2.5 or something like tat.
Btw I made a CP Taka Guide as well and I would be very glad if you would just check it out. Thanks!
Faey {SEA server)
Tension Bow is for burst, and the armor pierce.
Breaking Point is for prolonged engagements where you are the main center of attention and are usually snowballing.
This let's you build up stacks.
TB let's you do hit and run and also have enough damage and pierce to fight if you need to switch targets.
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Building him no defense is when you are snowballing against a Ringo, Celeste, and SAW/Vox or ranged comp without Kestrel.
Without defense, Taka literally lives on the knifes edge, and requires his old set up of crit and lifesteal.
PS sorry for late reply
WP is also much harder since you need Kaitem to dodge debuffs otherwise you are dead.
But I'm mainly talking about ranked, lol.
TB in Early and Mid game allows you to dominate, however, if you have a full build (late game) sell the Tension Bow and get SB for sure.
I redid some parts of the guide also, they cover more topics.
But if enemies don't buy armor, just take a different WP item, like a Tyrant's Monocle, or a Sorrowblade.
Sometimes I prefer a Breaking Point, a Toranado Trigger and a Tyrant's Monocle over my build, especially in casual matches and the like.
I mean it's a 60% Crit Chance and you have Breaking Point Passive.
Bonesaw is just really helpful since it actually shreds the target's armor, not only for you, but for everyone on your team.
That is why some Roamers have it in their default Reccomended Builds.
BTW the weapon power build going with defense first is awesome and has worked out well for me esp early game. I am now not afraid to engage early if needed.
Your combo of SG, BM, and Clock is very good.
It's a core part of many Taka builds.
AC lets you deal consistent CP damage.
It also makes you way more reliant on Taka's Basic Attacks as well as his
Personally, I rarely grab a Clock and instead go with an Eve of Harvest. It gives you more CP (55 I think), 10% SpellSteal and a 25% SpellSteal Passive, along with Extra Energy and Energy Regen. (SpellSteal is Crystal Lifesteal. I just call it Spell Steal because it's way easier.)
Taka's perk also reduces his CDR which is another reason why I don't always grab a Clock. As long as you can keep 5 Ki Stacks, you're generally good on CDR.
AC Lets you hit faster and gives you 60 extra CP. By itself you do 60 * 0.7 CP every other Hit. That's about 42 Crystal Damage.
Add in a BM and its passive and you get the idea.
You can also switch out the Aftershock, but I really don't reccomend that, since Roamers always have high amounts of health, and you can always benefit from the small Energy Regen and 25% CDR.
Keeping in mind that Taka, with an Overdrive Kaiten, doesn't need any energy, it lets you deal huge amounts of damage to Roamers and Turrets since it still lets you proc ASHK.
PS: ASHK also lets you farm faster, and so does AC.
Honestly, I don't normally play CP Taka as often as WP, it's just my preference.
But most of the time, I have to get Eve as a 4th CP item and then one Defense, which is usually Aegis.
I say I have to get Eve as a 4th item, since to me, CP Taka's play style doesn't really sit well with me, since I'm really used to Basic Attacking everything instead of mainly using abilities.
And when that one trick doesn't seem to work, well, you lose already.
(Unless there is one heck of a carry on your team.)
Koshka is far better in comparison. (CP-wise)
Taka just escapes better.
When you look at him When he goes CP, it's nearly funny how he looks like a second rate Koshka.
His perk gives him max 125% CDR and a burst of speed.
Koshka has -1 second CD per Basic Attack and a burst of speed that goes up to 4 (5?) stacks.
Basically just use Koshka if you have her, instead of Taka.
Not saying that he isn't good CP-Wise, but it's just how the leaf falls or wind blows or whatever the expression is.
Assuming by core Damage, you mean Base hero damage, life steal works on all WP a hero has, not just raw WP from the item itself.
Even if a hero like Skaarf got a SM, the Life steal would work on 10% of the Weapon Damage dealt.
Perchance you mean that the passive of SM, the +25% Life steal Effect on enemy heroes thing, I'm not really sure how that works either. I personally believe that when you fight a hero instead of a minion or creep, it just gives you the 25% Life steal instead of combining both the passive and the base Stats on SM. Because that sounds really overpowered and doesn't seem to be right.
(I mean, +35% Life steal increase on a Krul?)
I could be wrong, I just think that since SEMC Developers balance the game pretty well.
So basically I think it's just a:
10% LFSL on minions/creeps
25% LFSL on Enemy Heroes.
The Life steal function is just simply whatever amount of life steal percentage you have multiplied by the amount of damage you do to a hero/minion/creep.
I think it's worth it, if you're always getting sucked into a massive team fight all the time, get the Serpent Mask. It's not quite a Sorrow Blade, but it does wonders for sustaining Taka, since BP makes him do more damage, in turn increasing the amount of life steal he has.
BP is basically two Sorrow Blades and a Blazing Salvo at Max Stacks.
Taka with the Sorrow Blade path:
SB, BP, and BNSW.
That's at normal 150+50+30, or 230 WP.
At Max Stacks you get a +250.
So now it's +480 WP. You got all the defense with the build I have.
Oh yeah, and 126 base WP.
So total including everything: 606 WP.
This build essentially turns him into a very very strong Assassin.
Taka with the Serpent Mask path:
75+50+30, or 155 WP.
Max Stacks: 405 WP total.
Add in that base WP and we have 511 WP total.
Taka is still a very strong Assassin with this build.
SM let's Taka get to stay in the fight, allowing him to build more and more increasing damage against his opponent(s).
To me I'm guessing that, at max BP stacks,
(511 WP)
Taka would get 25% of that back as health back, right?
That is 128 Health back per hit.
Add in enemy armor and all of that, I'm guessing you'd at first get 70-8 health back, before moving up to around 100-110 health back per hit, since Bonesaw builds Stacks only on one enemy.
Essentially...
Taka would be healing for days.
Now that I think of it, my builds makes Taka more of a brawler, before he evolves into a heavily armored Assassin, WP-Wise.
Thank you for asking!
I appreciate your questions, since they help me continue to improve this guide.
I'm going to update some more WP info in the guide, since I've been wondering what else to put in.
Most people play him WP anyways.
:P
PS: I feel like a make another guide another guide everytime I reply.
It's funny, in a really terrible way.
The only other thing that is confusing and I'm still playing with is what to build first because i normally don't go with a TB (people should rush bc it is a huge early game item). I want to try building the core items in the guide and then my 3rd item a SB, SP or TM or at least building the BP out first since BNSW may not be necessary if the enemy doesnt counter build Taka with armor.
But this guide has helped a lot. Just starting with a defensive item alone has made it more possible for me to engage early with taka and come out on top so now I start him and koska this way.
I have the stuff in the guide, but I didn't explain enough about it in the Defense section.
I only have it in the situational section of the item paths.
I'll put in more today about it.
But thank you! I wasn't expecting someone to view this guide, much less comment on it honestly.