BLG3RNT BUILDS: The Complete Baron Guide by BLG3RNT

BLG3RNT BUILDS: The Complete Baron Guide

By: BLG3RNT
Last Updated: Nov 3, 2016
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StarDaBoii (2) | May 14, 2017 4:13am
Nice builds but i know some better builds. Well atleast I think theyre better but i have used these builds and i would say the other build gets more kills. But the guide itself is very good. Well done. You have made a better guide than me. ( tbh everyone can )
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fras | November 16, 2016 3:50am
wow very nice
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knwilliams319 (1) | November 15, 2016 12:50pm
One thing I just noticed: I'm pretty sure that in order to reach the full bonus of his abilities (i.e. 200 WP for the instant dash of Jump Jets), you need to build 200 WP, not just have 200 WP in total. Your hero's base WP does not count toward ability bonuses!
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BLG3RNT (44) | November 15, 2016 8:38pm
Oh thanks for that! I'll get it corrected
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MaximusPrime (57) | November 15, 2016 2:41pm
You're 100% correct. I just noticed he said that in his guide... Guess he's gonna have to change that.
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knwilliams319 (1) | September 25, 2016 8:35pm
Why don't you include Broken Myth in your CP Baron build? Also, besides this, a very detailed and thought-out guide. Good job!
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BLG3RNT (44) | September 25, 2016 10:16pm
Because that isn't how I build him. Except in very rare cases I only allow myself 2 or 3 offensive items in a build. I don't think it takes any imagination or skill to create a build guide that essentially says build one of everything.

I think that Shatterglass is mandatory for Baron. Let's face it, the one thing he is good at is raw power, he needs the more raw CP power item there is.

I feel that with Baron's low health he benefits from the lifesteal more than the Broken Myth stacks.

Finally, with Clockwork I get 30% amplification on CP all the time, as where with Broken Myth I get 35% amp, only after I've fully stacked the item. Plus with how much a CP Baron will probably be spamming his Porcupine Mortar, the extra energy and energy regen is more beneficial.
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knwilliams319 (1) | September 28, 2016 7:20pm
I can see where you're coming from in terms of the Broken Myth vs. other items, but in my opinion, this is a mandatory item for all CP carries. The armor pierce is extremely useful, and the damage amplification can really turn the tides of fights! Also, you are wrong on one thing. The Clockwork amplifies your Crystal Power, while Broken Myth stacks amplify your CP Damage to enemy heroes. There is a difference!
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P0m3granat3 (4) | September 26, 2016 4:30pm
I agree, but I prefer an Aftershock over a Clockwork as it will most of the time be unexpected and still provides cooldown speed. I don't know, this could just be my personal preference though...
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Levite | September 23, 2016 10:34am
BLG3RNT, thank you for the guide. It helped me to understand him better.

Just for sake of theory crafting, I'll bring up one crucial usage of overdriven B ability. My friend, Doom8, pointed out that it gives us a free block. Pretty much now we have two ageis. It doesn't block damage, but all debuff! You can jump out of Ardan's gauntlet if you overdriven it.

I'm not too sure if it is good idea to do that with CP, but I see a huge benefit if we do that with WP builds. We do not use A for damage, but mainly for crowd control. We still have it at max percentage of slow even when we do not overdrive A. So, we still have the full function of crowd control and we, also, benefits more mobility (harder for them to stun or slow us).

I am playing around this theory right now. So far, I find myself survive much longer in any situation such as being ambushed, being in team fights, or 1v1.

Let me know what you think. My IGN is Levite in NA server.
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BLG3RNT (44) | September 23, 2016 1:24pm
I'm glad it helped you! I think what you are talking about is valid, but comes down more to play style. I admit, and I think I did so in the guide as well, I still don't have a clear understanding of what exactly the overdriven jump blocks, other than Ardan's Gauntlet. Someone mentioned Forced Accord & Bright Bulwark.

I would say with Bright Bulwark is it really something that important to jump out of? Second I've not personally been put in a position of being in the Bright Bulwark and trying to jump out of it. Theoretically the jump would allow you to jump in, but not out because snare should silence the jump. Bright Bulwark only lasts 2 seconds so in my opinion it's not significant enough to justify the overdrive unless it's your play style.

I've also not been in a situation to jump through Forced Accord. Personally I'm pretty bad at triggering Reflex Block, so it doubtful that I'd be quick enough to tap the ability and then tap a location just to escape it. Perhaps in a fleeing situation a jump that can avoid forced accord may come in handy, again that's a preference thing.

It's absolutely a play style and situational thing. I overdrive the jump on the rare occasion I face an Ardan, but even still I've only ever benefitted from the benefits of it once. Personally since the overdrive doesn't add any extra power or anything I personally prefer the overdrive on the Porcupine Mortar. Yes it's weaker with WP, but it still does 360 +70% ratio. You can fire mortars very quickly so that 360 + 70% can add up, especially in team fights when you can hit multiple targets at the same time. It's also an 80 damage increase from not taking the overdrive per mortar.

Both paths are valid, I just prefer the overdriven Porcupine Mortar with Baron.
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Levite | September 25, 2016 11:04am
Thank you for taking time to response.

I agree about play style. I usually am an aggressive player and I overextend. Your siege build works well with my play style ; however, in higher tier, players usually play really conservative. I have hard time able to being conservative with this build.

The build I shared permits me to be very conservative and, yet, still effective till late game. Late game, I rekt everything so fast. Late game, enemy usually stay together. Once I caught them stacking, most of them lose large amount of hp and would retreat or break out the fight.

I've tested the B ability around many crowd control. No, we cannot jump out of bulwark, but we can jump in or through. Sometimes we want to chase down low enemy, Lyra cannot protect her ally. As for forced accord and many stuns, if timed right, B will either jump out of their range OR block them.

Now it is about timing. Right now I am struggling a bit with timing as well. I think it is very crucial to be able to time things. Most of time I would hit b ability when I know I am in their range... By time they start hitting the ability, I jump out. I think Baron's B ability could teach us timing of the fold.

Thank you for making time to having this discussion. It was very educational for me. As I play in the fold, I recall your guide and discussion. I hope your guide and this discussion are as educational to others as it did to me. Salutations.
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Jadennexus | September 21, 2016 8:42pm
If Baron attacks slow than is it gud with tornado trigger?
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BLG3RNT (44) | September 22, 2016 1:01pm
Yes, but with Baron you're never going to get blazing speed. I prefer other speed items that have other effects with them. Namely Breaking Point. Although there may be a case for Bonesaw as well since the splash damage would theoretically apply the bonesaw effects to multiple targets. I'm not sure if that works tho.
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P0m3granat3 (4) | September 22, 2016 6:31am
Yes, but the tornado trigger has less effect than it would on another character besides Lance. Baron and Lance are the only two characters with naturally slow basic attacks.
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Zajarman (2) | September 19, 2016 2:53pm
Can you explain the following terms, listed in the WP Baron section?
WP Burst
WP Seige
WP Throttle

Thanks
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BLG3RNT (44) | September 19, 2016 5:37pm
Sure. Although do note I removed the "Throttle" build from the description as it didn't make it into the guide. I forgot to remove the text. Those terms refer to the names I gave to the different Item builds in the guide. Labeled the same up top if you select the different builds.
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Phoeking (2) | September 19, 2016 3:49am
Hey, BLG3RNT I really enjoyed reading your guide. I haven't bought Baron yet, waiting for a glory option, but I played him few times on BR and tested on Practice Mode.
I wonder what do you think about a hybrid build? For example Sorrowblade/Shatterglass/Clockwork/Aftershock/Aegis/Boots. This will allow him to use all potential of his abilities. Like I said, I didn't bought him yet, so can't test that furter, maybe you could consider that?
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BLG3RNT (44) | September 19, 2016 7:27am
Hey there, I'm glad you enjoyed it! I actually have been toying around in casual with a hybrid build. Thus far it's been something like Sorrowblade/Shatterglass/Clockwork/Boots/Defense/Defense. Which maxes out his weapon perks and gets him around 195 of the 200 for his crystal perk. I haven't had a lot of success with it yet, it's an extremely slow developing build. If feels powerful once you get the ball rolling, but thus far I've not had much success with it yet. I'm sure there's a hybrid build out there, I'm just not sure what recipe will have success for me, and whether that will max out the full potential or just find a really good mid point for the perks.
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P0m3granat3 (4) | September 18, 2016 6:42pm
Great guide, BLG3RNT.
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BLG3RNT (44) | September 19, 2016 11:14am
Thank you!
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tslays (2) | September 16, 2016 2:03pm
+Rep

Thanks for adding the section. The part about economy really helps me in all my builds. Although, I have to say, Shatterglass and Clockwork feel extremely satisfying when manipulating the enemies position. This is by now the biggest advantage I could get with Baron. I feel like some hybrid Lane-Roamer.
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tslays (2) | September 15, 2016 1:05pm
Great guide, as always!

Would you first go for Shatterglass plus Clockwork? Or would you first concentrate on Eve of Harvest?
It would be cool if you could describe the order of the build in more detail!

PS: I already gave thumbs up. :-)
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BLG3RNT (44) | September 15, 2016 5:31pm
I prioritize in the order they are in the final build. I prioritize Eve of Harvest first. It gives me energy regen, which is vitally important to a CP Baron, plus it gives me an increase in CP, and the lifesteal helps keep you alive. You can't get all of those by building Shatterglass or Clockwork first.

I have added an "Item Progression" section for your request!
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4nuhk8er | September 18, 2016 11:47am
You need Broken Myth instead of armor, Baron shoots from far away he shouldn't be taking any damage only dealing it out so you need myth shatter clock frost then aeigis that's how you deal out damage
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