Triple Trouble Idris (Crystal, Weapon, Hybrid) by Hydrophexis

Triple Trouble Idris (Crystal, Weapon, Hybrid)

By: Hydrophexis
Last Updated: Jan 30, 2017
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Idris

Build: Weapon

Ability Path

Shroudstep
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Chakram
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Shimmer Strike
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Item Choices

Early Game

Book of Eulogies
Weapon Blade
Halcyon Potion

Core

Sorrowblade
Poisoned Shiv
Tyrant's Monocle
Journey Boots

Defensive Options

Fountain of Renewal
Metal Jacket
Shiversteel
Aegis
Slumbering Husk
Atlas Pauldron

Weapon Offensive Options

Serpent Mask
Tension Bow
Tornado Trigger
Stormcrown
Nullwave Gauntlet
Breaking Point
Echo

Sample Build

Sorrowblade
Poisoned Shiv
Stormcrown
Breaking Point
Fountain of Renewal
Journey Boots
Weapon Infusion

Very High Damage

Sorrowblade
Poisoned Shiv
Breaking Point
Tyrant's Monocle
Tyrant's Monocle
Journey Boots
Weapon Infusion

Threat Meter

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Threat Hero Notes
1
 Celeste Does damage in team fights but dies easy.
1
 Samuel Sitting duck with no escape and a delayed stun. Easy kill.
2
 Adagio He heals his team a lot from the back and his ultimate hurts, but he doesn't do much damage besides. Kill him last and use ultimate when he does.
2
 Skaarf Very squishy but does deal a lot of damage, especially when you are cp.
3
 Lyra She heals a lot but dies quick, be careful for her second ability, it makes escaping or finishing her off hard.
3
 Vox Squishy but he can silence and has a dash. If he goes cp he is easy money, if weapon, make sure to engage with shield.
4
 Ardan Once you get your blink if you are wp, you can get past his gauntlet.
4
 Baron Does a lot of damage and has that dash, but can be bursted quick.
4
 SAW Bait out his spin up halfway then engage with ultimate when the meter is halfway. Don't let his passive stack up.
5
 Blackfeather If you are running from him its hard to escape, but you can chase him pretty well. Dodge his ultimate if possible.
5
 Idris Skill Matchup
5
 Ozo Has really nice sustain, but if you have your mortal wound, he is toast.
5
 Skye If she gets away don't chase under tower unless her team is dead. She kites very well and does a lot of damage.
5
 Taka Mostly a skill matchup. Use your ultimate to make sure he doesn't get away in his box. Use your shield to block his burst if you see him in a bush.
6
 Catherine Her stun is very annoying and her bubble reflects a ton. Don't fight her when her bubble is up.
6
 Gwen Squishy but does a lot of damage and has a cleanse, but you have no cc in the first place. Don't let her run away though.
6
 Kestrel Watch out for her traps, she is squishy.
6
 Phinn Tanky with a lot of cc, focus him last but stay away from his anchor slam stun.
6
 Reim Does damage only if you stand right next to him. Poke him down then go in for the kill.
7
 Fortress His wolves hurt and his team is usually behind him, but if he is the last one he dies pretty fast.
7
 Joule Does a lot of damage either way, counter build her and she shouldn't be too hard to kill.
7
 Petal Her pets do a lot of damage, she snowballs hard, don't underestimate. Run away from her while throwing you chakrams then turn on her when she is about half.
8
 Flicker His whole team gets invisibility, make sure you have scout traps or your team will get ambushed.
8
 Koshka Her ultimate is strong and she does damage, but if you play right, you can kill her. Your shurikin still comes back, even if you are in stun.
8
 Ringo Does tons of damage but he also takes a lot. Always focus first in team fights.
9
 Glaive Careful for his frequent cp knock backs or his crazy aoe wp damage. Fight only if you are fed.
9
 Lance Does tons of damage with tons of utility and mobility. Wherever support is, there is also a carry. Kill him only if his team is dead.
9
 Rona Surprisingly strong if she gets a lead. Stay away from her early and dash away from her ultimate.
10
 Alpha She does a lot of damage, has two lives, and is super tanky, group to kill her.
10
 Krul Unless he has 10 deaths and you have 10 kills and can one shot him, run away.

Idris

Build: Crystal

Ability Path

Shroudstep
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Chakram
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Shimmer Strike
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Item Choices

Early Game

Crystal Bit
Book of Eulogies
Halcyon Potion

Core

Alternating Current
Aftershock
Broken Myth
Halcyon Chargers

Defensive Options

Aegis
Metal Jacket
Slumbering Husk
Fountain of Renewal
Crucible

Crystal Offensive Options

Frostburn
Shatterglass
Stormcrown
Nullwave Gauntlet
Echo
Eve of Harvest

Sample Build

Alternating Current
Broken Myth
Stormcrown
Aftershock
Halcyon Chargers
Fountain of Renewal
Crystal Infusion

Very High Damage

Broken Myth
Alternating Current
Frostburn
Aftershock
Shatterglass
Journey Boots
Crystal Infusion

Threat Meter

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Threat Hero Notes
1
 Samuel Easy kill!!!
2
 Celeste Poke her down and kill her. Watch out for her ultimate.
3
 Lyra Heal is annoying but she is surprisingly squishy.
3
 Reim Easy kiting, don't get too close though.
3
 Vox Free kill if cp. Poke him down if wp.
4
 Adagio Shouldn't be a problem, dodge his ultimate and kite to stay away from burn.
4
 SAW He can't dodge your chakram very easily, use this to your advantage.
4
 Skaarf Does damage, but you can poke him down.
5
 Baron He has strong poke, but you can whittle him down in lane and go in for the kill.
5
 Catherine She is annoying and her silence can ruin you, but she is not your main priority in a team fight. Use her to stack up broken myth.
5
 Fortress If he jumps on you slow him with frostburn and run with boots.
5
 Idris Skill Matchup
5
 Petal Run from her. Throw chakram a few times then turn. Don't underestimate.
5
 Skye You have superior mobility but she has more damage. Skill matchup imo.
5
 Taka Skill matchup. You can counter all his abilities. Shield his spin, and ult him when he ults you.
6
 Gwen She does damage, but if your chakram hits her both times you do more poke.
6
 Phinn Easy to kite, focus last ultimate him then run if he uses hook.
7
 Ardan You can get out of his ultimate by using yours on someone who is outside the gauntlet.
7
 Blackfeather Does a lot of damage and has a lot of mobility, try to stay away from 1v1s with him.
7
 Flicker Get your support to go in bushes first. Stack up broken myth and kill his team but watch out for his team stealth.
7
 Kestrel Watch out for her stun, get an aegis.
7
 Ozo He heals a lot and does damage, don't fight alone.
7
 Rona Does a lot of damage and is tanky. Poke her down and stack up breaking point from range.
8
 Lance Tanky, with hard cc, mobility and damage. run away unless your team is with you. Focus last in team fights.
8
 Ringo Does damage, poke him down before engaging. Build aegis if he goes cp.
9
 Glaive If he uses afterburner ultimate him, jump closer towards your side, slow him, then run.
9
 Joule Insane damage, counter build her.
9
 Koshka She does a lot of damage, get an aegis, block her ultimate, slow and run.
10
 Alpha Alpha will destroy you even if your team is around, be careful and get your broken myth stacked then kill her with chakrams.
10
 Krul Don't fight him in any situation unless he has all abilities on cool down, all items on cool down, is too far to auto you, his passive is down, and he has 1 hp left.

Idris

Build: Hybrid

Ability Path

Shroudstep
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Chakram
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Shimmer Strike
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12

Item Choices

Early Game

Book of Eulogies
Weapon Blade
Halcyon Potion

Core

Serpent Mask
Breaking Point
Alternating Current
Broken Myth
Journey Boots

Defensive Options

Aegis
Metal Jacket
Slumbering Husk
Fountain of Renewal

Hybrid Offensive Options

Sorrowblade
Shatterglass
Tyrant's Monocle
Aftershock
Poisoned Shiv
Tension Bow
Echo
Frostburn
Stormcrown
Nullwave Gauntlet

Auto Attack Sample Build Pick Infusion

Serpent Mask
Tension Bow
Alternating Current
Broken Myth
Journey Boots
Stormcrown
Weapon Infusion
Crystal Infusion

Weapon Heavy Hybrid Build

Sorrowblade
Poisoned Shiv
Broken Myth
Alternating Current
Breaking Point
Journey Boots
Weapon Infusion

Crystal Heavy Hybrid Build

Sorrowblade
Broken Myth
Alternating Current
Eve of Harvest
Journey Boots
Frostburn
Crystal Infusion

Sample Build

Sorrowblade
Alternating Current
Broken Myth
Journey Boots
Poisoned Shiv
Stormcrown
Weapon Infusion

Threat Meter

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Threat Hero Notes
1
 Celeste Squishy and she can't land her stun easily because your mobility. Don't dive her too far though.
1
 Samuel Easy money.
2
 Adagio With the added security from your ultimate's extra leap range, you can kite him easily, dodge his ultimate, and jump on him for the kill.
2
 Skaarf Does damage but it can all be dodged. Burst him, pretty easy to kill.
2
 Vox Squishy but wp does a lot of damage.
3
 Baron Does damage but you can poke him for a ton then dash in and kill him.
3
 SAW Immobile, poke him with chakrams and jump on him at about half.
4
 Ardan His ultimate is easy to escape now, either with ultimate or blink. Read weapon and crystal to find out how.
4
 Blackfeather You now have more mobility than blackfeather, and you do damage to, avoid his ultimate with yours.
4
 Catherine She will have a hard time stunning you when you can blink then use boots. Ultimate if she dives you.
4
 Gwen She cant run from you because of that mobility. Dodger her stun and she's dead.
4
 Phinn CC for days. Don't dive him, focus last.
4
 Reim Does a lot of damage close up. Poke and kite.
4
 Skye Lots of mobility. Don't let her use her 2nd ability to get away, ultimate her when she does.
5
 Idris Skill Matchup.
5
 Kestrel Her stun does a lot. Try to avoid them and kill her, she is squishy.
5
 Ozo Not too much of a problem but he is very mobile. Blink away when he uses his 3rd ring attack so he doesn't heal a lot, then re engage.
5
 Taka Does a lot of damage, but you can kill him if you shield his flip or ult and ultimate him when he stealths.
6
 Fortress He does good damage for a tank, don't chase someone with him attacking you.
6
 Joule Does damage, but can all be dodged. Build some defense against her, but kill her when she is ulting.Your ultimate can dodge her ultimate.
6
 Lyra Very annoying, when she uses her "root" use your boots, run, then turn on her.
6
 Petal Focus petal over her minions. Ultimate her then auto her to death. Watch your hp.
6
 Ringo Make sure to land your chakrams on him for max damage. Poke him and jump on him.
7
 Lance Very strong, but is weak at super close range. Focus him last.
8
 Alpha Not as much of a threat now that you can get away from her. If she is chasing you, ult her, jump over a wall or away from her, dash away, then use boots.
8
 Glaive His afterburner still can come out of nowhere. If he ranks, ultimate him, move towards tower, and blink away.
8
 Koshka Does a lot of damage, but even koshka cant keep up with you if you use your mobility right. If she tries to stun you, throw your chakram at her and it will come back while she is on you.
9
 Flicker Your main weakness is hard cc. His team will pop out of nowhere and kill you, make sure you have a few scout traps.
9
 Krul Dont engage in a 1v1, team up to kill him.
10
   No Threat

Table of Contents Top

1.Table of Contents
2.Idris Abilities
3.Changelog
4.Introduction
5.Weapon Pros and Cons
6.Weapon Early Game
7.Weapon Mid Game and Item Choices
8.Weapon Late Game
9.Crystal Pros and Cons
10.Crystal Early Game
11.Crystal Mid Game and Item Choices
12.Crystal Late Game
13.Hybrid Pros and Cons
14.Hybrid Early Game
15.Hybrid Mid Game and Item Choices
16.Hybrid Late Game
17.Thanks for Reading!!!

Idris Abilities Top

Divergent Paths is Idris' Heroic Perk. It adds so many options to Idris and makes him a viable hero for any build bath (maybe not tank or support though). His crystal path is great for kiting and works very well with frostburn, aftershock, and alternating current. His weapon path makes him super mobile and gives him even more damage.
Shroudstep, Idris' A Ability adds some extra mobility and damage. It is a roll with a barrier that upgrades into a blink. It is great for initiating and chasing, especially when building weapon. It also amplifies damage, even when crystal. Use it to proc aftershock and hit extra hard.
{icon=chakram size=75]Chakram deals the most damage out of all of Idris' abilities. It hits hard and does aoe. Dodge it with your shroudstep and shimmer strike to get the most damage possible. It is strong either way.
Shimmer strike is Idris' ultimate ability. It is pretty good. I use it mainly for damage and dodging my chakram for maximum damage. If you have a breaking point, the aoe from this and from chakram stack it up insanely fast.

Changelog Top


Patch 2.0
Idris is released.

Patch 2.1
Idris's Crystal autoattack ratio has been buffed from 85% to 90%
Idris's Chakram cool down has been reduced by 2/1.5/1/.5/0 seconds.

Introduction Top

Hi my ign is XxNotoriousXx and I made this guide after playing Idris a lot. He is a great hero and in this guide, I will show you how to play CP, WP, and Hybrid lane Idris.All three builds are great and they all do a ton of damage. Weapon is high sustained damage, crystal is sustained with high bursts from chakram, and hybrid is hyper-mobile.As vainglory changes, this guide is always subject to change.

Weapon Pros and Cons Top

Pros
-High Damage
-High Mobility
-High Sustain
-Barrier and Invulnerability
-Good Poke
-Blink to Dodge Skillshots		 Cons
-Squishy
-Vulnerable to CC
-Item Reliant
-No CC
-Crystal Kites Better

Weapon Early Top

Early game Idris is very weak, start with chakrams and use them to farm. You can outdamage your enemy, but usually they do more damage at the start. Play safe. Make sure to use your book of eulogies to heal off minions.

Weapon Mid Game and Item Choices Top

You need sorrow blade really bad. It gives you your passive and it gives you damage. Once your chakram is lvl 4 or 5 it starts chunking. When the enemy is half hp, wait for chakram cd. Engage with your 1st ability, auto, chakram, auto (try to run with your enemy), then ult if they get away. Stormcrown is a good option because you will always do some damage, and I always build it, cp or wp. Poison shiv gives you 2 important stats: life steal (quite a bit) and attackspeed (about as much as breaking point). Echo opens up a lot of plays like double chakrams, super barrier (use dash with chakram and autos to get enough energy for another dash), or a super long invulnerability.

Weapon Late Game Top

You should be doing a lot of damage with your chakram. Group with your team to take objectives and pick off the enemy team. If you are behind, don't underestimate your damage, your ultimate is good for sticking and does aoe. At this point, auto attacks and your blink should be doing most of the damage.Get crit items to make your blink attack hurt. The high damage build includes a lot of attack speed mixed with crit, and it works very well and builds up with the breaking point.

Crystal Pros and Cons Top

Pros
- Safety Behind Teammates
- Good Sustained Damage
- Kite Very Well
- Even Better Mobility than Weapon
- Damage Builds Up in Long Fights
- High Attack Speed 		Cons
- Item Reliant
- Needs a Tank
- Very Squishy
- Vulnerable to CC
- Easy to Kill Pre-125 CP
- Low Sustain (with eve of harvest)

Crystal Early Top

You need book of eulogies, you don't do much damage at the start of the game. Play safe and kill minions while poking down enemies with chakrams.

Crystal Mid Game and Item Choices Top

Farming is key to crystal Idris. You need the broken myth and the alternating current to get your damage up. You have consistent damage with little bursts from chakrams. Your damage really gets running when you get lvl 4-5 chakram and your broken myth is stacked. Be aware that you do more melee damage than ranged. Use your range to stack up broken myth. Stormcrown, like I previously said, is a great item. It does full damage from range too. Aftershock does a lot of damage when your broken myth is stacked up. Echo adds a lot of burst to your kit if when you double chakram in a team fight. BROKEN MYTH IS ESSENTIAL. I have played many games as crystal Idris and I did absolutely 0 damage without it but with it, I had high dps and could burst from melee. Occasionally, my ranged auto does about half the enemy's hp (even vs the tank) when Alternating current, Aftershock, and roll are up, and broken myth is fully stacked.Alternating current adds attack speed and more damage and with broken myth, you get your ranged attack. Eve of Harvest heals an ok amount when you have breaking point stacked up (I don't like it though, the heal isn't very strong).

Crystal Late Game Top

Late game you should be pumping out good damage. Ultimate on an ally to disengage, your ultimate has longer range when you are cp. Get your broken myth stacked up on the enemy tank or initiator. Then switch targets and burst down their carries. Your chakram goes through enemies so you can stay on their tank and hit their back line with your chakram. Remember to kite, frostburn is pretty much shiversteel but with damage, and it helps a lot with kiting.The high damage build mixes a little sustain and a lot of damage. The frostburn lets you kite and keep up with your enemies, while your alternating current and aftershock allow your auto attacks to a lot of damage. With your shatter glass, your chakram does massive damage, and it gives a nice medium sized power spike to your auto attacks. Remember to use your roll to get away from enemies and do more damage, this process your aftershock.

Hybrid Pros and Cons Top

Pros
- High Damage
- Hard to Build Against
- Mixed Damage
- Blink and Extra Range Ultimate
- Hard to Chase Good at Chasing		 Cons
- Squishier than Normal
- Very Weak to CC
- Not Much Space for Defense
- Hard to Balance out Damage Between Crystal and Weapon

Hybrid Early Top

You will basically start out like weapon and build crystal later. Play safe and wait for ganks. When their team ranks, yours will usually gank right after and vice versa.

Hybrid Mid Game and Item Choices Top

Go with your team into the enemy jungle and ambush the enemy. Play like a crystal carry and auto attack until they are low, the play aggressive like weapon. I like to use the auto attack items because they pair nicely with your blink. The weapon heavy build has a lot of attack speed and it is really strong at kiting. Remember when you play crystal heavy that if you blink then auto it will chunk the enemy, especially if you have broken myth stacks. In any of my builds need defense, replace the 5th offensive item.

Hybrid Late Game Top

Save your alternating current (and aftershock if you have it) for a melee attack. Blink in when they are ready then hit them with your empowered auto. Idris is very good at chasing. Remember to use melee attacks and ranged ones. Try to hit as many enemies as possible with your chakram, but autos are your main damage source. Get crit if you want extra weapon damage and shatter glass if you want more flat out damage.

Thanks for reading!!! Top

Thank you for reading this guide. It is my first guide! I hope it really helps and that you liked it! Please upvote if you liked! Leave a comment if you have any questions, spot a mistake, or want to recommend something!I am open to feedback and I check this guide pretty often, I will try to reply ASAP. Thanks so much for your time!!!

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